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Minnesota Senate Recount, Day 73 January 17, 2009

Posted by neoavatara in Politics.
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Yup, 73 days of joy in the recount in frigid Minnesota, with no reall end in sight.  Minnesota is making the Florida 2000 recount look downright competent.  And atleast you could have a Mai Tai or something on the beach while waiting.

So to recap:  Norm Coleman led by 200+ votes after election night.  After a mess of a recount, Al Franken leads by 200+ votes. Under Minnesota law, Coleman has the right to challenge the recount in court, which he has chosen to do.  The Democrats and Franken campaign have tried to avoid the court challenge, and have tried to have Franken seated in the Senate before he was legally ineligible.

So what now?  12,000 absentee votes, many that were improperly rejected during the election and recount, will have to be analyzed.  In fact, 64 public citizens are now suing the state of Minnesota to verify their rejected votes.  Unfortunately for Franken, most of these absentee votes are from Republican leaning counties.  And this is part of the problem.  Votes were not uniformly treated acrosss the state by the canvassing board, with would violate the constitutional right to one man, one vote.  So a uniform standard will have to be applied by the court.

Even more troublesome is that atleast 100 votes, if not more, were apparently double counted in Al Franken’s favor in the Minneapolis area.  The Canvassing board acknowledged this, but said it did not have the right to review it. And there are numerous districts that now have more votes than voters..and most are in Democrat leaning counties.  Additionally, 133 ballots that were counted on election night were never found in the recount period; but were counted anyway.  So, for the first time in american history imaginary votes were included.   But to compound the stupidity, some votes that were NOT counted on election night were also counted by the canvassing board.  Yeah, I am confused as well.  So all of this is left up to the courts to decide.

So what does this all mean?  Well, another recount is a certainty, though they may not have to count all the votes.  The absentee votes must be clarified.  And there must be a single standard applied across the state.  Once this is done, it is highly questionable who will come out on top.  It is up to the Minnesota Court system to redeem the state’s well known reputation for clean elections, because at this point, the reputation is in tatters.



1. JayMagoo - January 18, 2009

This is getting ridiculous. The Republicans are whining and huffing and puffing about how Franken’s campaign is pulling all sorts of stunts. The Republicans sound a lot like Fox News, they start talking among themselves about how their guy was stiffed, and they hear so much of it — strictly among themselves — that they begin to believe it. Then they recite it to the world as if Gospel truth.

The fact is that Minnesota conducted a recount that was a model for efficiency and transparency. In Florida in 2000, which I saw with my own eyes, hundreds of Republican workers and sympathizers roamed the hallways of the courthouses during the recount, pounding on doors, and otherwise intimidating recount workers. That didn’t happen in Minnesota, and maybe since the Republicans were denied the opportunity to exercise their thuggrey in Minnesota they feel cheated.
The real sub-text of the Republican’s message is that their guy lost, and worse yet, he lost after proclaiming victory on election night. It appears to me that the Coleman campaign had cheated, swindled, pilfered, and otherwise stole enough votes on election day to put their guy ahead. Then in the cold light of day, the next day, when the votes were recounted, Coleman’s lead suddenly began to evaporate and it became apparent that the Republicans had better take a look at those votes they shaved off Franken’s total and gave to Coleman. Those dozens of little frauds might be detected. Suddenly Coleman’s lead of several hundred dwindled to several dozen. The possibility of criminal charges has made many a man turn suddenly honest.
Coleman has a right to his day in court. You guys couldn’t steal the election, so let the truth prevail.
And stop the hot air!

neoavatara - January 18, 2009

Sorry, I disagree. As a former resident of Minnesota, I was dismayed at how the recount went. There is a simple rule that should be followed during a recount: Count all votes equally. Didn’t we learn that lesson in Florida 2000? Instead, the Canvassing board was picking and choosing as they went along. That is unconstitutional, and the courts will hold is as such. That does not mean Franken won’t win. Again, I don’t really know who got more votes on Nov. 4. But the votes should be counted uniformly, and in favor of no one.

2. JayMagoo - January 18, 2009

There were many places where the votes were not in doubt. Just because the ballots were not individually examined, did not mean they were not recounted. All votes were recounted.
Only where there was some doubt were the ballots recounted individually. Every one of the votes case — EVERY ONE — was recounted. Just because they concentrated on those where there might be a dispute does not mean that all were considered in the recount.
The canvassing board followed it’s legal mandate. There are obviously still some ballots in dispute. The courts should rule on them, not start the recount over from the beginning. – that would be unnecessarily redundant. Of course the losing side is desperate to try anything they can to either overturn the results, cast doubt on the results, or simply delay the inevitable while the Republicans in the US Senate filibuster against any real meaningful legislation from the Democrats.

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